When is too much power just too much......

ScoobieWRX · Post by **ScoobieWRX** » Wed Apr 23, 2008 8:16 pm

It seems to me that there is a point when your car has so much power that no matter how excellent the handling is set up you get to a point or level whereby any more power and the car becomes totally undriveable. You can't put the power down and you may as well be driving on ice.

For example..... Even a top handling Scooby that has been made to handle as well as it is physically possible must have it's limitations, and after a certain point it starts to handle like a wet sock full of diaorreah.

I've seen quite a few Scoobs/Evo's with 800/900/1000 bhp and think to myself, surely you could have between 400 - 600bhp, with ultra good handling and it would be good enough to beat the higher power cars that you find in competitions like Time Attack.

Can that be possible or am i having wet dreams and talking shit!! :-D

Any sensible and informed comments are very welcome!! :thumb:

Listerofsmeg · Post by **Listerofsmeg** » Wed Apr 23, 2008 8:27 pm

you are correct i believe. Optimal would be around the 600bhp mark track dependant.

Ross · Post by **Ross** » Wed Apr 23, 2008 8:30 pm

I agree, the cars are getting so quick now. A drivable 500bhp is what is required for a club class driver in my opinion.
Having said that my Evo running 700+ is surprisingly drivable but when the car starts squirming changing from 3-4 at 90mph under full power its kind of scary and that's in a straight line :lol: But to be fair it is well mapped by our very own Gary @ APT you can get on the gas coming out of a corner and know you'll get progressive (but scary :lol: :-D ) power.

Post by **Stuart** » Wed Apr 23, 2008 8:39 pm

600 bhp at the wheels with excellent response and a good spread of torque, decent brakes, grip, and cooling will go a long way to beating a higher powered, less well balanced car.

Don't forget the most important component within any build

the driver :thumb:

ScoobieWRX · Post by **ScoobieWRX** » Wed Apr 23, 2008 8:48 pm

stuart wrote:600 bhp at the wheels with excellent response and a good spread of torque, decent brakes, grip, and cooling will go a long way to beating a higher powered, less well balanced car.

Don't forget the most important component within any build

the driver :thumb:

Agreed...... and just to add to that....and how big the drivers arse is!! I think i'd need an extra 200bhp just to haul mine along at the moment!!

Ross · Post by **Ross** » Wed Apr 23, 2008 8:56 pm

stuart wrote:600 bhp at the wheels :thumb:

Thats a lot Stu

I was thinking 450whp in a 1300kg motor.

Post by **Stuart** » Wed Apr 23, 2008 9:02 pm

Trust me Ross, I know just how heavy your car is........I've had to push it in and out at APT enough times

Ross · Post by **Ross** » Wed Apr 23, 2008 9:06 pm

stuart wrote:Trust me Ross, I know just how heavy your car is........I've had to push it in and out at APT enough times

Like a tank. 8) If I hear we are being invaded, Im going to war in the Evo 8) :lol:

I still think 600whp is far too much, or to much for me anyway :oops: 600whp in mine is like an R1 on steroids, 450 is sweet :-D

Post by **Stuart** » Wed Apr 23, 2008 9:09 pm

We'll give you a year of track driving on good tyres and then ask you again. Maybe in the wet 450 is enough

Ross · Post by **Ross** » Wed Apr 23, 2008 9:13 pm

[quote="stuart"]We'll give you a year of track driving on good tyres and then ask you again. Maybe in the wet 450 is enough ]

Your'e a nut case :-D

Believe me if I can use 70% of 450 whp for 70% of the time on a circuit I will be more than happy :-D .