A quick question for the FD connoisseur's

[jap.slapper]

Is there any particular reason why this FD which has quite a substantial spec list, is only £11k


http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/ ... 1r/2452810

Spec list:

Street ported 13B (Rebuilt by Steve Rivett Nov 2013, invoice to prove, done 5k miles since)
HKS T51R SPL Turbo kit (Rebuilt by Universal Turbos same time as engine, invoice to prove)
HKS V-Band manifold
HKS GT 60MM Wastegate
HKS Downpipe with screamer pipe
Exedy Carbon-D twin plate clutch
Greddy Type R BOV
HKS Mushroom Filter and Intake Pipe
Apexi Power FC and Hand Commander
Greddy Profec OLED boost controller
PWR V Mount Intercooler/Rad Kit
Custom injector rails
550cc primary & Bosch 1680cc secondary injectors
Greddy Elbow
Polished engine bay
Engine decluttered
ABS Removed
Fujitsubo straight through exhaust
Tein Bonnet Lifter
Air Con Removed
Dragon Ali Slam Cooling Panel
Greddy pulley kit
Bosch 044 fuel pump
Devilsown water injection kit
Re-A GT300 Widebody kit
Re-A Side mirrors
Carbon rear diffuser
Carbon VIS Racing bonnet w/ bonnet pins
Carbon BGW
Carbon wrapped door handles
Sleek Re-A Light Conversion
Rota Force Drift alloys 18x10.5 et20 wrapped in Federal 595 RSR's only a few months old
Tein Coilovers
Edenz bucket seats
Momo steering wheel
Carbon door cards
Quick shift
Custom Carbon canards
Full respray in April, Custom paintwork with gold pearl
Jaydee mapped



whereas this one is £27k?

http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/ ... ub/1635198


I appreciate the bumf' that go's with this one ^^^^ and have seen it advertised several times over the years in the classified ads in MotorSport magazine alongside rare exotica, however I genuinely can't see with all things considered where justification for the price tag comes from....

[Stuart]

I love the 11k one both in terms of perceived value for money and aesthetics. The one that's 27k is beyond me (financially and in terms of explaining it's cost). Maybe it's midnight club tax? I can't see any other reason and I've been looking at FDs for sale since about 2005

You interested in buying one then?

[jap.slapper]

I love the 11k one both in terms of perceived value for money and aesthetics. The one that's 27k is beyond me (financially and in terms of explaining it's cost). Maybe it's midnight club tax? I can't see any other reason and I've been looking at FDs for sale since about 2005

You interested in buying one then?

I still really like FD's and would rather have one of those parked on my drive than my current zed, however after the way the last FD I purchased panned out I can't see me being 'allowed' to buy another one.

It's interesting to compare spec lists and prices though and ironically the sad truth is (including legal fees) I'm down by around £27k now on that last FD buy.

I've still got an itch that needs to be scratched.....a big fookin' GTR itch that won't go away

[Stuart]

Saw a nice black R32 with stage one spec on MLR for 10k. Looked like a very clean basis for further mucking around. Also includes BBS LMs so you'll instantly become public enemy number 1 for Christian

Sorry to hear about the FD woes. I guess if I had the confidence in them from an ownership POV I would have had one by now.

[RX7]

Its a nice car but the market for 90s thirsty sports cars hasn't been kind. Hence why you can buy an R33, Supra or R32 for around the 10k mark. The only car that seems to have stood the test of time is the Honda NSX and the Type R ones of those go for absolutely crazy money (60k upwards!).
11k is a good price as ones with the same spec have been going for lower

It's a car thats been on the Touge Heroes DVD and owned by an A1GP driver plus a few others but has been chopped and changed with mods and stuff. Personally though the rear black arches don't do it for me and it looked nicer in the yellow although that Re-Amemiya kit isn't my favourite if honest but it is better than the Porsche style front they did.

A lot of spec though for the money but like all cars that are getting on now be prepared for gremlins. It will go like stink though.
There is someone selling a 20b (triple rotary) N/A for 16k on the FDUK forum, now thats a cool buy.

27k on an FD build.......sounds intriguing !

I too share your itch to own a GTR one day, an R34 is out as its too expensive but a nice midnight purple R33 with bronze Volk wheels and some skirts and nice stage 1 mods would do me. But one thing is for certain, the number of people who own FDs and come back to them is quick astonishing. Definitely nothing like the sound and presence of one.

[MrBrooks]

I'd rather the £11k RX7 over the £27k one. I have a feeling there isn't a justification for the price tag whereas "How much can I get away with selling this for because it's rare" comes into play more. I guess it's down to 3 main things; condition, rarity and status (being ex-MNC).

[RX7]

That 27k one for sale has been up for years and years and years, I love the way its misquoting stuff......
1, 'ad facer' is the name of the front bumper.
2, there are no wide body parts on it at all as the wings and rear quarter look stock sized to me.
3, 450bhp on what looks like a T04E, might have been that on Japanese Ron fuel but not in the UK.
4, 0-60 in 3.4 seconds, now that is quick but not sure how believable it is.
5, Vmount kits weren't thought of or created at the time this car was supposedly built and there is no way Re-Amemiya would have created one without a vented bonnet. That looks a later addition, a good one nevertheless.

But the biggest problem of all I have with it is that its not special enough for anyone to recognise over here, midnight club means nothing to people.......something like a Spirit R or a late model RZ are pretty rare cars and I'd have a mint one of those over this any day. In fact I'd have a fully resprayed Re-amemiya kitted car with decent single turbo and all mods for 27k as an alternative.

[jap.slapper]

Maybe Bart Simpson actually signed the decal personally.....that would surely add a few zeros to the value?

[dom187]

Quite simply, the market for FD's has taken a battering IMHO. I think many people have been put off rotaries because of the RX8 and also the 'cheap' RX7's out there which blow up due to negligence/poor mod selection. Big killer I think on these cars now is the 20 year old wiring with all the heat (hence me getting a custom made loom). Its starting to come back now for stock cars in terms of price - stock FD's go for 6-7k.... Then think of all the mods it would take to get a stock car to the 11k car in terms of mods! On FDUK about year or so ago there was almost a car a week being broken because selling the cars wouldnt net as much money so people would break. Also with the lack of imports due to the strong yen (last I checked anyway) its now starting to change the balance of the supply and demand. 11k is about right for that spec given the market right now, I do think you could buy it and break it for more. There is a lot of unfinished RX7's projects out there which need feeding....

[Ben]

That said Dom, we all benefit from car's being broken and due to so many the prices of parts seem to have come down - once only the good cars are left the prices will rise! ..

I'm amazed that impreza Type R's are turning up in the UK to be broken almost immediately especially considering that most people advertise them for sale around the 7-8k mark