Time Attack v Civic Cup

pablo · Post by **pablo** » Mon Sep 24, 2012 5:35 pm

Is the Civic Cup cheaper than Time Attack?

Why would you enter Time Attack as opposed to Civic Cup?

Civic Cup arrive and drive

A2ON · Post by **A2ON** » Mon Sep 24, 2012 5:48 pm

Why when you have people like the astra vxr who have spent cica 60-60k over the years would i enter and think i had half a chance in CLUB fwd !!!

CLUB class needs a review to allow people to enter who have track cars and want some fun .

pablo · Post by **pablo** » Mon Sep 24, 2012 5:57 pm

I have already said that the classes need looking at.

If you're scared of being beat then you will never win because you'll always walk away from the challenge.

Cantello won club class RWD against the odds, because he stepped up to the challenge.

Marshall bought the title club class 4WD. (R35) The need to win above the desire to compete. He played the rules and won.

RX7 · Post by **RX7** » Mon Sep 24, 2012 6:27 pm

Civic Cup for me anyday. Time Attack is dull and boring to watch as a spectator and too biased eg professional drivers, crazy amounts of money spent in the 'base' classes to stay competitive, an odd ruling of classes etc etc etc.

Civic Cup everyone is on a level playing field and its a genuine challenge and watching the racing is pretty good. I bet Stu can't forget the Mazda MX5 championships of a few years ago, was like wacky races but much more competitive. Having a base car and level playing field and to quote Bart 'sorts the men from the boys'

pablo · Post by **pablo** » Mon Sep 24, 2012 7:01 pm

RX7 wrote:Civic Cup for me anyday. Time Attack is dull and boring to watch as a spectator and too biased eg professional drivers, crazy amounts of money spent in the 'base' classes to stay competitive, an odd ruling of classes etc etc etc.

The address system at most circuits is poor, the commentry is improving. There needs to be alot more information on each car for easy access by the public.

There are NO, professional drivers in club class.

The class structure is simple once explained.

Club Class - Semi slicks
NA
FWD Forced Induction
RWD Forced Induction
4WD

Club Pro - Semi slicks
2&4WD

Pro 2WD
Slicks

Pro
Slicks

A2ON · Post by **A2ON** » Mon Sep 24, 2012 7:12 pm

pablo wrote:The address system at most circuits is poor, the commentry is improving. There needs to be alot more information on each car for easy access by the public.

There are NO, professional drivers in club class.

The class structure is simple once explained.

Club Class - Semi slicks
NA
FWD Forced Induction
RWD Forced Induction
4WD

Club Pro - Semi slicks
2&4WD

Pro 2WD
Slicks

Pro
Slicks

No pro drivers in club class , you have guys in club and ALL they do is drive !!!! have you lost the plot ?

pablo · Post by **pablo** » Mon Sep 24, 2012 7:13 pm

Bart would give his left b*****k to go door to door racing. Slight problem,

Finding the series that he would like to enter.

A car he wants to race in.

Buying another car

Learning about another car

Budget to repair damage

He'd be on his own cause I would be bored stupid spending a whole day looking at 1 make of car.

Bart · Post by **Bart** » Mon Sep 24, 2012 7:14 pm

A2ON wrote:No pro drivers in club class , you have guys in club and ALL they do is drive !!!! have you lost the plot ?

you want explain that point then pal????????????????????????

pablo · Post by **pablo** » Mon Sep 24, 2012 7:22 pm

A2ON wrote:No pro drivers in club class , you have guys in club and ALL they do is drive !!!! have you lost the plot ?

There is a clear and defined difference between someone who is a hobby racer and a professional driver.
In order for someone to be classed as a professional driver they need to be or have been paid to drive someone elses car. A hobby racer could do 100 races a year, that does not, nor will not make them a pro driver.

Personal opinion is irrelevant as to what constitutes a pro driver.

In answer to your question No, i haven't lost the plot.

Rob S · Post by **Rob S** » Mon Sep 24, 2012 7:23 pm

Gents, I could be wrong, but a sense a little niggle here.
Are any of the Club boys professional from the point of view that they get paid to drive cars round circuits? I'd hate to see two sets of people who actually get on a circuit fall out over mixed signals...
Genuine question which help prevent confusion etc.
Thanks

Edited= Thanks for the answer Pab's