Time Attack now recognised by MSA

[pablo]

The class structure is the same as last season, any changes have yet to be announced. Once i've received this seasons regs. and read through them twice i will post any changes.

[pablo]

Changes for this season.

1. Club class competitors now require a MSA (fund raising) non race license. No test, no medical just the pleasure of paying

[duncan]

Essentially the same as 2009 regs and operating wise.

[Bart]

i think that all performance figures SHOULD be available to not just competitors but in the main the public as they pay to come and see us lot drive our highly tuned cars and what is the 17-21 year old most interested in BHP. also IF this information was a vailable freely, say someone with about 550+BHP in club class was winning each round and deliberatly holding back so they didnt get bumped upto club pro think thats a bit unfair but surpose there always be someone to point this out cuz thats just not playing fair at all. At the end of the day we are all there cuz we are racers theres nothing quite like a out and out fight with someone pushing yourself and the car to the limit.

all i can say for one once our car done 1000% all the way:drool5:

im looking forward to the season indeed bring it on:driving:

[pablo]

For once i have to agree with Alan on the subject of declaring bhp figures. The Time Attack is there to showcase the aftermarket tuning industry and has a younger following. One of the main questions that people ask is, "What she running". For those of us luckily enough to have sponsors we have a contractoral obligation to showcase what they do.

[Stuart]

I'm not having a dig as I fully appreciate the Time Attack ethos of it being different to racing, but the Kumho series (and many others) use defined dyno's where all competitors have to run their cars.

All rules and their limits can be pushed so I dare say that someone will work out the 'two map' argument with one map for the dyno and another for 'race' day. Restrictors could be used like the rally teams do, but whatever is implemented (and something should be) it needs to be visible in the sense of rules and easily measured to discourage cheating bastards

I'm always impressed with the attitude you guys adopt towards the series; always upbeat and determined, always flexible and happy to get stuck in. Your approach of being creative whilst balancing a modest budget encourages paupers like me. If I had your commitment and patience I may join you, but I don't, so seeing you guys get amongst the fat cats is all the more inspiring.

[Bladerider]

Personally,

The whole ethos behind the Series was to allow those with a more limited budget a chance to have a free formed chance at taking on the big boys without hindering them too much with strict class rules that audiences dont understand or care about, less red tape with regard to specific dynos and any other potential barriers that might make the like of Nuttjob and Shorty not want to bother.

We liked the idea of letting people just get on with it, but alas that does mean that there is more freedom for those of deeper pocket and slacker morals to exploit the grey areas and buy ex Touring Cars or whatever to say they are the fastest !! Which is a shame, but in many ways also sticks to the other most essential principle we had when coming up with the original classes, that the action should be as interesting and unlimited as possible for the spectators.

Which i think has been acheived as much as safety requirements and physical restrictions on a track based event can permit other than perhaps direct door to door racing to the flag, which would is another potential sideline now the MSA is onboard of course !!

J.

[Stuart]

Some valid points, as I would expect from you oh spherical one!

I wouldn't mind the lack of like for like in the classes if the clarity about the level of mods was more visible. Kind of like Top Trumps. If you knew the BHP, torque, power to weight of a given car then it would be a more interesting comparison when you started to see lap times that were sign posted in real time on large displays

Rather than the vague thing of lots of cars that are an unknown quantity all buzzing around, some driven by pro's, some driven by Fred the Shed with scratchy commentary quality that is difficult to hear and difficult to remember.

Good potential as a series, but it can always be improved

[pablo]

Bladey, where you been hiding:thumbs:.

Alan has a simple and effective method of dealing with all the rules and regs. He has never once read them:bart:. He says it's not his job. I agree with what you said about to much red tape being a barrier to the average joe. We do it for the fun and excitement of the sport but it needs to inform the public a lot more.

[Bladerider]

Ive been lurking.

Just thought I would post up for a change.

I might even come along to a meet soon - I need to update my membership as the last one kinda got wasted in hospital !! lol

J.