Wet tyre choice

Technical discussions
User avatar
ScoobieWRX
Posts: 2136
Joined: Tue Jul 31, 2007 9:42 am
Location: Northants
Contact:

Post by ScoobieWRX »

Can i draw your attn to these....

Can you get these in the UK??......
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp ... Radial+Wet

Race Forum talking about wets...interesting reading peoples comments from experience....
http://www.ten-tenths.com/forum/showthread.php?t=73808

Trackday tyres for sale on Ebay.......
http://shop.ebay.co.uk/?_from=R40&_trks ... kday+tyres

This site has lots of interesting tyre reviews anbd other info on tyres....
http://www.tyres-online.co.uk/archives/prodoct07.asp

Yokohama Advan A006 - wet racing tyre used in WTCC as a control tyre looks good.

...hope some of this is useful to everyone, only took 15mins to find this lot...i'm sure there is more out there :thumb:

....oh....and here's some nice wallpaper for you bimmer bangers!!
http://www.theautochannel.com/news/2007 ... 5.1-lg.jpg
Buggers cancelled my op just a couple of days before it was due. Inconsiderate barstewards!! :rant:

Image

Waiting now for another execution date!!:headhack:

Baz
Posts: 100
Joined: Mon Jul 14, 2008 2:13 pm
Location: Herts/Essex

Post by Baz »

If talking road (1A) tyres, F1's do seem to be good, slightly better than T1's IMO. but i'm quite happy on bald(ish) versions of both in damp, ie. not much standing water, and 1B's, 888's with ok tread are also great in the wet, long as there's no too much standing water, Avon ACB10's are excellent in both damp and dry, after all they're actually a wet race control tyre. :)

gary@apt
Posts: 1527
Joined: Thu Jul 27, 2006 7:04 pm
Location: norwich
Contact:

Post by gary@apt »

ive just bought a tyre cutter so im sure ill be testing r888's with a wet pattern soon
Image
EVO 7 with 2300cc,GT35,HKS 272's,1000cc,MOTEC...the list goes on..

User avatar
Stuart
Posts: 18080
Joined: Thu Jul 27, 2006 3:26 pm
Location: Auto-Genie HQ
Contact:

Post by Stuart »

Gerry

No, I meant a good road tyre suitable for sprints (ie F1's) but I was trying to gain further feedback from people using them in similar circumstances to my requirements.

Francis

See above :)

Baz

Ta

Gary

You can guess what I'm going to suggest can't you :thumb:
http://www.auto-genie.co.uk
07733 527430
stuart@auto-genie.co.uk
Valeting, detailing and undersealing

Fast Eddy
Posts: 2716
Joined: Thu Dec 14, 2006 10:07 am
Location: Norwich
Contact:

Post by Fast Eddy »

Stuart,
What about the Hankook RS2's.
I have no personal experience, but reports are very good. I was going to buy some for my M3, but they did not have the rear size in the UK at the time.
They are a medium compound with slightly more tread than an 888 and great value from Camskill.
Worth a look i think.
Eddy
Authorised trader. Bespoke & direct fit exhaust/induction solutions, silicone hose specialist, Millers oils, Whiteline, EBC + much more. Find me at http://www.fast-eddys.biz

Image

330hp Pulsar Gti-r, 153hp Metro and 185hp Smart Car!

User avatar
Gerry H
Posts: 6967
Joined: Sun Sep 24, 2006 10:12 pm
Location: On the Road to Nowhere

Post by Gerry H »

stuart wrote:Gerry

No, I meant a good road tyre suitable for sprints (ie F1's) but I was trying to gain further feedback from people using them in similar circumstances to my requirements.
Kim certainly rates the F1s FTD at Debden and also at Curborough, till it dried.

As for feedback from me, there were too many other issues with the car to think much about how it was handling :roll: The grip felt good but wasn't pushing it. The only twitchy moments was accelerating away from the roundbout, through the tightening right hander where there was some standing water and is quite bumpy anyway iirc.

The wet Silverstone I did a few weeks ago was no test as I had two new F1s on the front and worn Bridgestones 050A behind. Front grip was good but poor rear grip meant it was very tail happy with a couple of big spins.

You need to ask the Rainmeister, Kim. :D
Handle every stressful situation like a dog. If you can't eat it or hump it, piss on it and walk away!

ESL
Posts: 934
Joined: Wed Mar 21, 2007 1:14 pm

Post by ESL »

F1s have a relatively soft sidewall so won't turn as sharply as RE070s or 888s, but the extra compliance is welcome in slippery conditions. Outright grip is very good for a 1A, wet or dry. Steering feedback, cold performance and temperature consistency when lapping all seem good.

I was wearing them last year when we all went to Cadwell on my wrx shed and while clearly they didn't have the outright grip of whatever Dunc had on (888's?), Malcolm consistently logged a lateral peaks of 1.4G (I think that might be a touch optimistic).

If you can find some part worns they will be cheaper and a bit grippier without the first few mm of treadblock. The compound seems quite durable for a sporty tyre. I have them on all my fast road cars. I have tried the Toyos as well, which weren't bad, but still preffered the F1s.

In answer to your original question, discussing corner segments may be of limited use as I always use them with 4WD (apart from the drifter which uses whatever random stuff that gets fitted on the day), your RWD setup will exploit the tyres in a different manner.

Where is Kim? He can explain all about tyre testing.

ESL
Posts: 934
Joined: Wed Mar 21, 2007 1:14 pm

Post by ESL »

Oh. Was wearing them at the Pickenham sprint as well, fastest car on road tyres. Think you sat in with me and Gerry when he had slicks on, so if you can remember back that far there is a comparison to be had there as well....

User avatar
Gerry H
Posts: 6967
Joined: Sun Sep 24, 2006 10:12 pm
Location: On the Road to Nowhere

Post by Gerry H »

Andy, are you talking about the F1 Asymetrics or the earlier incarnation?

Probably worth mentioning that Camskill were a lot cheaper than anywhere I could find.
Handle every stressful situation like a dog. If you can't eat it or hump it, piss on it and walk away!

ESL
Posts: 934
Joined: Wed Mar 21, 2007 1:14 pm

Post by ESL »

Good point, F1 GSD3s. I can still get them but have they been superseded?

Post Reply