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On-board HHO (Brown's Gas) generation for more power/economy

Posted: Mon Nov 17, 2008 5:07 pm
by ScoobieWRX
Does anyone have any genuine experience/knowledge of HHO systems for combustion boosting i.e. 99RON + HHO??

Is this a viable alternative to using 99RON + E85 or other additives for generating more power??

Posted: Mon Nov 17, 2008 5:11 pm
by duncan
WTF !!!

Have you got a wideband sorted yet?

Posted: Mon Nov 17, 2008 5:35 pm
by ScoobieWRX
I am asking a genuine question here that requires a bit more than WTF!!

Elaborate please Duncan :D

Posted: Mon Nov 17, 2008 5:37 pm
by duncan
Sorry Francis - never heard of it - what is it and what does it do?

From the brief googling i gave it, it looked quite a detailed area. I have not heard of anyone in the scooby community or tuners using it. Whereas a lot have gone done the route of exotic or not so exotic fuels.

Posted: Mon Nov 17, 2008 6:05 pm
by ScoobieWRX
HHO or Brown's Gas (2 parts pure Hydrogen 1 part pure Oxygen). The difference from water H2O is that these particles are seperated from the water to produce the gas.

Introducing this gas into the combustion cycle along with fuel and air mix allows for a more complete/efficient burn. Even running leanish as we do there is still unburnt fuel being exhausted therefore completely burning all the fuel is providing more of a bang.

Gas can be produced on-board using eletrolysis to extract the HHO from a water based electrolyte held within a container. Electrical conductors/plates within the container are fed 12V power via the car's alternator, and a reaction in the electrolyte takes place that creates the HHO.

Benefits are reduced emissions (20%-40%), increased MPG (10% - 40%) and more BHP (how much % i have no idea as i haven't read that yet but i assume that if you inject the same amount of fuel but burn more of it you get a bigger bang therefore more BHP is inevitable). Other benefits include cooler running cylinders from the water vapour that is produced and sucked into the engine along with the gas produced.

There seem to be plenty of these systems in use in the USA but not heard of much happening in the UK. I would love to see the system working for myself and subjected to dyno before and after testing to know that this really works or is a load of old tosh.

I keep an open mind though.

Posted: Mon Nov 17, 2008 6:22 pm
by duncan
Sounds interesting but I think I'll just stick with pouring freshly squeezed sugar beet into my tank :thumb:

Posted: Mon Nov 17, 2008 6:53 pm
by ScoobieWRX
:pmsl: Enjoy squeezing your beet....as long as that's all you're squeezing ;)

In all seriousness i am genuinely thinking of building my own HHO generator over this winter to find out for myself if this really works or is just rubbish as i don't know of anyone using one in the UK. It doesn't cost much for materials and you never know there might be something in this.

Here is a dragster in the USA using one of these HHO systems. http://www.hhogames.com/