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Unsprung weight, how much diiference
Posted: Fri Dec 28, 2007 8:46 am
by boraboy
I've got a couple of pairs of AP 4 pot calipers, they came off a Land Rover and are made from cact steel so are quite heavy when compared to the Ali versions.
Would this cause any problems if I fitted them to either my Bora or my mk1 golf.
They will fit onto a 312mm disc which is bigger than the standard I have now.
Posted: Fri Dec 28, 2007 9:32 am
by Pike
They'd kill the MKI handling! I'd put the on the Boara as the effect wouldn't be so noticable and its heavier to start with and can do with the extra help slowing down.
Posted: Fri Dec 28, 2007 2:06 pm
by boraboy
OK, thanks Pike,
I've also got a set of G60's to go on the mk1 so will probably use them on that.
Posted: Thu Jan 03, 2008 4:52 pm
by Vectraman
One of the Jap mags ran an article on their scooby project stating that 1kg of unsprung weight saved was the same as 10kgs of kerb weight.
Rule of thumb i suppose but should think that adding unsprung would be along the same lines gains-wise...
Posted: Sat Feb 16, 2008 1:45 pm
by Mr Fletcher
is there any chance somebody could give some more detail on the unsprung weight issue ie cause and effect.
i just went and looked at some 330 calipers and discs to upgrade my e36 but i didn't buy them because
amongst other issues they were damn heavy. :roll:
cheers
jason
Posted: Sat Feb 16, 2008 1:59 pm
by ScoobieWRX
If you're really keen to lose weight on the brakes why not look at some of the Brembo cast Aluminium calipers and floating Rotors. Better braking, better feel and lightweight too. Add to that some ceramic brake pads and youre away. Not cheap though so i suppose it depends how much you can spend. I've been looking into performance friction too, recommended by Duncan and Zen Performance. They do the Aluminum calipers and floating rotors, not as much money as Brembo or AP.
P.S. I hear people raving about the K-Sport kits too, and very very cheap for what you're getting!!
Posted: Sat Feb 16, 2008 2:08 pm
by Mr Fletcher
yes i also run performance friction on my 03 sti and rate them very highly. i was just looking at my
options really as my brakes on the track e36 will need replacing after my next track day , i have noticed the
ksport but although it was more than i wanted to spend at the end of the day they do look good value.
cheers
jason
Posted: Sat Feb 16, 2008 2:10 pm
by duncan
sidewaysfletch wrote:is there any chance somebody could give some more detail on the unsprung weight issue ie cause and effect.
As suspension moves the work of the springs are there to absorb the shock - when deflected the spring pushes up on the car and the 'sprung' weight. When the weight of the 'unsprung' items is less the spring has less mass to stop moving upwards and can therefore keep the vehicle better in contact with the road.
It is a huge subject though but well worth investigating.
Some basic info here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unsprung_weight
Great Article on it
Posted: Sat Feb 16, 2008 6:07 pm
by duncan
Found this article that explains it properly.
Well worth reading :thumb:
http://www.autospeed.com/cms/A_0193/article.html
Posted: Sat Feb 16, 2008 6:16 pm
by Mr Fletcher
very interesting you can quite easily take one step forward and three steps back :roll:
thanks for digging that out
cheers
jason