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Thanks for the advice Stu, I have never done anything like this so I need to get some research done the tips you have given are very welcome. I am going to do some reading over the next week to work out what stuff I need and more importantly the prep I need to do. See all the effort I am going to ready for the charity event! I do suspect however the splitter might not be ready in time!

Turns out my new splitter is gonna be fiberglass (is that bad?) does that change things alot?

Chris, you're more than welcome to join me on this venture but like I say I am a n00b but this is something I have always wanted to try my hand at and I thought a splitter might be a good place to start :)

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I am a bigger noob! :b

Mine is flexible plastic, so I guess it will be a different basecoat, but the paint is the same.
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Pantera Chris wrote:I am a bigger noob! :b

Mine is flexible plastic, so I guess it will be a different basecoat, but the paint is the same.
Hehe ok mate, I will have a look tonight at things we will need and send you a PM.

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Pantera Chris wrote:I am a bigger noob! :b

Mine is flexible plastic, so I guess it will be a different basecoat, but the paint is the same.

Sent you a PM on FDUK Chris.

Just for reference looking at getting some plastic primer, get some colour coat made up and some clear coat as well.

Few things which I need investigate...

Chris has a plastic splitter I have got a fiberglass one, can I use plastic primer as well?

Colour coat and clear coat wise can we use any paint or do we need to get specific plastic/fibreglass paint? (I am guessing no as this is the primers job?)

How many coats do we need of each layer? I was gonna do 3 of each with sanding between coats (not the clear coat).


If I have put anything massively noobish please feel free to point and laugh.... then correct me!!!!

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dom187 wrote: 1 Can I use plastic primer as well?

2 Colour coat and clear coat wise can we use any paint or do we need to get specific plastic/fibreglass paint? (I am guessing no as this is the primers job?)

3 How many coats do we need of each layer? I was gonna do 3 of each with sanding between coats (not the clear coat).

If I have put anything massively noobish please feel free to point and laugh.... then correct me!!!!
1 Yes you can. It's more expensive than normal primer but it won't do any harm

2 Any paint you like...........are you using aerosol or paint gun and compressor? ( I presume aerosol)

3 The thing that will dictate how many coats you need is coverage. I have no idea how good you are, and I have no idea what standard you want :) If you are sanding between colour coats you will soon see what you need as you will either be taking loads off with each rub down, or your finish will be smooth and you won't need as many coats :thumbs:

If you remember to make sure the room you are using is warm (or as warm as possible) and that paint is applied in thin and even applications, you should be fine. General rule of thumb is to chuck the paint cans in a bucket of warm water first to help the paint mix when shook (not boiling water and ten minutes is fine) Always spray a bit of paint onto masking paper or similar just before you start to paint, just in case it spits. Once any spitting is clear, make sure you use a level of pressure that allows the paint to come out at a consistent level. The easiest way to make sure you don't cock up the loading of the paint is to follow the lines of the object like a robot would do (I'm not taking the piss, but look at youtube clips of automated factory production lines or look at the lines that a pro painter takes in the paint booth........nice and steady pace, and he/she will follow the lines of the car keeping a constant distance from the car).

Once you have started to build up a layer of paint, you will be able to put slightly more on without the likelihood of runs but only slightly more and this is all subject to enough paint in the tin, room temp, surface temperature etc. Once the tin starts to run out, it is far more likely to spit once more.

Like I said earlier, there are a few people on here that can paint (and I suspect know far more than me) Russ and Tk being two off of the top of my head. I like painting but I am the first to admit I am very mindful of the low level of skill I have and the resulting standards I tend to get. I have painted using the proper preparation, equipment and materials and the standard was quite good, but these days I have to make do with aerosols, roller and a boredom threshold that means my own cars get a quick tidy up at best. Maybe the valeting will change my perspective from know on? Who knows :D

Have a practice first and try to get familiar enough with the processes before you have your dummy run. It really needn't be that tough on something like a splitter :thumbs:

PS- one thing that you haven't mentioned is panel wipe. Buy some from wherever you're buying your paint as this is a life saver when it comes to removing impurities and contaminants after you've rubbed down your primer and prior to putting fresh paint on.
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Stu is great with a paint roller ;)
Seriously though mate, this can't be an expensive job to get one of the paint shops to do can it ? Am all for having a go on things but paintwork can look sht if not done correctly and you do have an ace looking car.
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RX7 wrote:Stu is great with a paint roller ;)
Seriously though mate, this can't be an expensive job to get one of the paint shops to do can it ? Am all for having a go on things but paintwork can look sht if not done correctly and you do have an ace looking car.
Thanks Gareth, I hear what you are saying. I think it would maybe be a good idea when my splitter turns up to take it to H tech and see what it would cost then go from there.

It just having the satisfaction I painted and it looking fking awesome (hopefully).

Chris and Gareth, you guys want me to get a cost for getting all three of our splitters painted when I get a quote?

Stu, again top man for the tips :hurray:

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Yeah might as well mate
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I think my turbo has blown a seal, shes smoking like a trooper manly on idle and it seems to leaking oil from the seal between the intake side of the turbo and the core.

One possibility (I think so correct me if I am wrong) is that the feed line is providing too much oil pressure to the turbo so I am thinking about putting restrictor on the feed line and seeing if it helps, but I suspect the damage has been done.

The turbo is a master power T70...

So I am looking for someone who can supply a rebuild kit or actually do the rebuild themselves? Any recommendations? My worry is master power isnt the most well known brand and I might have to get a whole new turbo setup....

Got a picture of the leak....

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http://www.essexturbos.com/content/enquiries/
Any good to you Dom? They used to have a great rep but I haven't kept an eye on things in recent times (for obvious reasons)
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