Thanks Guys.
Engine choice is very much cost lead.
T5 lump - PITA to turn into a decent longditudinal layout gettign all the parts together unless the right parts turn up on the cheap. Also not enough cylinders.
LS1 - I did look at the idea a while ago, but putting together a decent LS1 or any alluminium american V8 is not cheap in this country and mating it to a decent manual box is far too expensive for me.
The Opel V6 lump that I have in mind now has a decent race heritage to tap into (bassis of the DTM V6s from the 90s) Is fairly light considering it has a cast iron block, and more improtantly costs pennies for a whole car including a decent getrag 5 speed. It needs work to get the power I need, but not any expensive parts and I am happy building engines.
I also fancied the Lexus V8s but the cost and the manual conversion for a decent gearbox was also a pain.
1966 Volvo Amazon - Crazy hot rod and track car
what about this as a donor - probably could be bought for a lot cheaper than its advertised
You'd probably get most the money back in breaking the rest
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/1994-7-SERIES-BMW ... dZViewItem
found this info on the engine
M60B40
The M60B40 had a bore of 89 mm (3.50 in) and a stroke of 80 mm (3.15 in), for a total displacement of 3,982 cc (243 in
You'd probably get most the money back in breaking the rest
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/1994-7-SERIES-BMW ... dZViewItem
found this info on the engine
M60B40
The M60B40 had a bore of 89 mm (3.50 in) and a stroke of 80 mm (3.15 in), for a total displacement of 3,982 cc (243 in
for quite a while the BMW V8s where on the ebay shopping list ( and even the V12 form the 850/ 750) Good manual gearboxs are not too easy to find, but are nice Getrag 5 or 6 speed units when you do. I also have access remaping the later 4.4s to some rather big power increases.
The problem is the ratios. Now I am running a Nissan rear end I need something I can get a suitable diff for. The most sensible thing is to run the Nissan diff and driveshafts, so I only need a custom prop. The nissan is 4.1:1, but the BMWs run a 2.8:1 so the gear ratios would be a real mess. The opels are 3.8:1 so a Nissan diff will bring them just that little bit closer together and suits the tall ratios the Omegas ran quite nicely.
And there is no way that this car is going to get an Auto box!
The problem is the ratios. Now I am running a Nissan rear end I need something I can get a suitable diff for. The most sensible thing is to run the Nissan diff and driveshafts, so I only need a custom prop. The nissan is 4.1:1, but the BMWs run a 2.8:1 so the gear ratios would be a real mess. The opels are 3.8:1 so a Nissan diff will bring them just that little bit closer together and suits the tall ratios the Omegas ran quite nicely.
And there is no way that this car is going to get an Auto box!
this weekend
Did a little more this weekend. Mainly cutting out the last of the mangled volvo bits, more of the rusty nissan bits that appear, and then making the new custom bit with some decent strength steel.
I also turned the car upside down a few times just because it makes me laugh still.
And then tonight i got carried away and made a risky Ebay purchase:
Yes - that is a Lexus 1uz-fe with a nasty auto box on the back, but will be replaced with a real gearbox before long. If I can sell some of the unused parts I have then hopefully a tremec tko600. That should deal with the torque from a couple of turbos. It should be a lot of fun, kind of like my silvia, with double the engine and a more central weight balance. I may have to look at brakes and how to deal with fuel prices next :roll: ...off to research LPG systems in race cars.
I also turned the car upside down a few times just because it makes me laugh still.
And then tonight i got carried away and made a risky Ebay purchase:
Yes - that is a Lexus 1uz-fe with a nasty auto box on the back, but will be replaced with a real gearbox before long. If I can sell some of the unused parts I have then hopefully a tremec tko600. That should deal with the torque from a couple of turbos. It should be a lot of fun, kind of like my silvia, with double the engine and a more central weight balance. I may have to look at brakes and how to deal with fuel prices next :roll: ...off to research LPG systems in race cars.
I forgot the battery for the camera on sunday, so a little bit missing, but basically I spent last weekend picking up this little beatuy, and drifting the Silvia.
however this is about as close as it is getting to the car for a little while until the shell is further on:
This weekend though, I did get some more fabricating done, starting to prepare the shell for the new floor, and also spotted a chance to move the engine back another 65mm. (it was already 170mm further back than a 200sx the front suspension is from)
Engine bay before:
And after, with additional engine setback:
Sunday I finished 1 of the sills for the new floor and also linked to the front suspension turrets with a weird arrangement of a double a pillar with space for the exhaust silencers to hide inside. Difficult to explain so I will make sure I take pics next time. Airflow will be needed to deal with the heat, so it may soon be time to make myself a louvre tool rather than rely on the hammer and dollies for that many.
however this is about as close as it is getting to the car for a little while until the shell is further on:
This weekend though, I did get some more fabricating done, starting to prepare the shell for the new floor, and also spotted a chance to move the engine back another 65mm. (it was already 170mm further back than a 200sx the front suspension is from)
Engine bay before:
And after, with additional engine setback:
Sunday I finished 1 of the sills for the new floor and also linked to the front suspension turrets with a weird arrangement of a double a pillar with space for the exhaust silencers to hide inside. Difficult to explain so I will make sure I take pics next time. Airflow will be needed to deal with the heat, so it may soon be time to make myself a louvre tool rather than rely on the hammer and dollies for that many.