Just got a workshop manual mate forAlexb's new ride - EK9 Civic Type R
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Mr Windscreen
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Welcome fellow EK9 owner. What,s it like in the "VTEC Zone?" :-D Let me know about how you get on with the seats mate, I need to do mine. Saw this for sale on another forum, didn,t realise you were going to get it! How noisy is the induction kit? Thinking of one for mine but don,t really know which to get / is a good one. Hope we can share our info and enjoy these cracking cars. 
Just got a workshop manual mate for
Just got a workshop manual mate for
Alright mate? Yeah the VTEC zone is quite fun isn't it?! 
Will do about the seats, there doesn't seem to be a guide on either of the EK9 forums so I'll take pics and post up a guide (there's an English DC2 guide but the picture links are broken).
The induction kit is quite loud. There is a little bit of 'booming' as well, when you floor it in 5th gear at about 3-4k rpm. That may be due to the header and decat too though, and doesn't last long (far too low revs anyway
). Don't know if something like the Mugen intake with it's carbon box is quieter (I suspect it is), as the AEM kit is just a long pipe with a cone filter on the end
You're right, they are fcuking amazing cars, it's got this highly tuned sound/feel, and quick, communicative steering feedback that makes it feel like an escaped race car
It makes the RX-7 seem quite soft really.
Looking forward to a good joint development effort mate
The seller threw in an EK-series Haynes manual which looks quite useful although obviously the EK9 R isn't explicitly mentioned. Also got a Japanese Spoon catalogue which is far too tempting even with the amusing Japanese to English translations!
Insurance wasn't too bad, turns out the previous owner was with the same insurer, and we ended up with the same premium too, although I'm older I declared the mods Also more expensive than the RX-7 :?
Anyways, hope you can make it to the April meet, would be good to see yours too.
Cheers,
Alex
Will do about the seats, there doesn't seem to be a guide on either of the EK9 forums so I'll take pics and post up a guide (there's an English DC2 guide but the picture links are broken).
The induction kit is quite loud. There is a little bit of 'booming' as well, when you floor it in 5th gear at about 3-4k rpm. That may be due to the header and decat too though, and doesn't last long (far too low revs anyway
). Don't know if something like the Mugen intake with it's carbon box is quieter (I suspect it is), as the AEM kit is just a long pipe with a cone filter on the end You're right, they are fcuking amazing cars, it's got this highly tuned sound/feel, and quick, communicative steering feedback that makes it feel like an escaped race car
It makes the RX-7 seem quite soft really.Looking forward to a good joint development effort mate
The seller threw in an EK-series Haynes manual which looks quite useful although obviously the EK9 R isn't explicitly mentioned. Also got a Japanese Spoon catalogue which is far too tempting
even with the amusing Japanese to English translations!Insurance wasn't too bad, turns out the previous owner was with the same insurer, and we ended up with the same premium too, although I'm older I declared the mods
Also more expensive than the RX-7 :?Anyways, hope you can make it to the April meet, would be good to see yours too.
Cheers,
Alex
What can I say.........aaaarrrgghhhhh !!!!!!!
Cant believe you sold the Rex ! Especially after having a trip in yours sealed me buying one !!
However what a superb choice mate, you know I love EK9s also.
A great spec and really cant wait to see or have a passenger trip in it !!!
1 less Rex in the club now though
Cant believe you sold the Rex ! Especially after having a trip in yours sealed me buying one !!
However what a superb choice mate, you know I love EK9s also.
A great spec and really cant wait to see or have a passenger trip in it !!!
1 less Rex in the club now though
alexb wrote: It makes the RX-7 seem quite soft really.
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Gareth
Gareth
Cheers Dunk
G - you're doing a good job of holding up the RX-7 in the club
About the Rex seeming soft - obviously it's faster but it's about how differently they sound and deliver the power. I guess the minimal sound deadening in the Civic helps make it sound faster!
Ben - cheers. Took Tracy out in it this morning so she could have a go driving it. She gave it the thumbs up, but the short shifter takes a bit of getting used to. I may stick the original back on TBH.
Cheers,
Alex
G - you're doing a good job of holding up the RX-7 in the club
About the Rex seeming soft - obviously it's faster but it's about how differently they sound and deliver the power. I guess the minimal sound deadening in the Civic helps make it sound faster!
Ben - cheers. Took Tracy out in it this morning so she could have a go driving it. She gave it the thumbs up, but the short shifter takes a bit of getting used to. I may stick the original back on TBH.
Cheers,
Alex
I knew what you meant mate.
Really looking forward to seeing it.
Not a fan of short shifters tbh they tend to make it much harder and I would guess it puts more wear and tear on the gearbox ?
You can get the bolsters pretty cheap of fleabay so should be an easy job I'd reckon.
Really looking forward to seeing it.
Not a fan of short shifters tbh they tend to make it much harder and I would guess it puts more wear and tear on the gearbox ?
You can get the bolsters pretty cheap of fleabay so should be an easy job I'd reckon.
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Mr Windscreen
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G - me neither, the shift action is pretty stiff now, 2nd is particularly hard to find too.
I don't think they increase wear on the gearbox as all they do is shorten the pivot point's relation to the linkage attachment point - producing the opposite of Archimedes' lever principle (give me a lever long enough and a fulcrum on which to place it, and I shall move the world) - the same force is still being applied to the gearbox through the linkage itself.
Darren - is that the virgin's trackday? If so I don't qualify unfortunately, but Tracy (my missus) is up for a bit of track action so hopefully we'll be there
Cheers,
Alex
I don't think they increase wear on the gearbox as all they do is shorten the pivot point's relation to the linkage attachment point - producing the opposite of Archimedes' lever principle (give me a lever long enough and a fulcrum on which to place it, and I shall move the world) - the same force is still being applied to the gearbox through the linkage itself.
Darren - is that the virgin's trackday? If so I don't qualify unfortunately, but Tracy (my missus) is up for a bit of track action so hopefully we'll be there
Cheers,
Alex
Ok, not much of an update really, but I've done a few things since I started this thread:
Rays locking wheel nuts
Replaced short shifter with standard item
Replaced Skunk2 Racing throttle body with standard item:
Although in theory the aftermarket part should have given sharper throttle response (the HP gains are bollocks in my opinion) it was seriously compromised by not sealing with the standard gasket properly (despite claiming to work with it), and having a horrible stickiness to the start of the butterfly movement that I've been able to remove by adjusting a stop grub screw but results in a 1500 rpm idle which was a bit of a pain in the butt. If I upgrade this part in the future I'll use one from Spoon or similar, which bore out an OEM Honda item so compatibility etc is not an issue.
New brake disks and pads:
I got Dixcel FCR (Carbon) Slotted Front Discs, Plain Rear Discs and Type Z Pads (F&R).
Before:
New Parts
After:
I used these on the Bigpower track evening and at Snetterton last month, braking performance is definitely improved, with no disc warping and a clear decrease in braking distance
The pads, which are marketed as fast road/trackday items seemed to take a warm-up lap to come up to temperature, after which the pedal travel and feel tightened up, and then were excellent with consistent rock solid pedal feel, and they seemed to take everything in their stride. Absolutely no fade or 'hot' smell and they generated less dust than OEM pads after the equivalent number of sessions.
Overall I'd definitely recommend the FCR Carbon discs and Type Z pads for trackday use, but for road only use the OEM parts are fine.
Intake heat shielding
The car came with an AEM V2 induction kit, which although not as popular as the Mugen or J's Racing parts, I've been happy with. One thing I did notice though was that the pipework was getting quite hot to touch after a track session due to underbonnet heat buildup. I decided to stick on some heat reflecting material to see if it helped:
This was done just before the Heritage Trackdays event at Snetterton last month, and the difference was massive, the intake feels merely warm after 20-30 minutes on track. While this difference can't be felt or measured, I'm pretty sure it's better than having a baking hot pipe for the intake air to flow through...
That's about it, probably next upgrade will be a Mugen Twin Loop exhaust, although in all honesty as the OEM exhaust is stainless steel anyway it's not a huge priority (the cost is also a slight issue!).
Cheers,
Alex
Rays locking wheel nuts
Replaced short shifter with standard item
Replaced Skunk2 Racing throttle body with standard item:
Although in theory the aftermarket part should have given sharper throttle response (the HP gains are bollocks in my opinion) it was seriously compromised by not sealing with the standard gasket properly (despite claiming to work with it), and having a horrible stickiness to the start of the butterfly movement that I've been able to remove by adjusting a stop grub screw but results in a 1500 rpm idle which was a bit of a pain in the butt. If I upgrade this part in the future I'll use one from Spoon or similar, which bore out an OEM Honda item so compatibility etc is not an issue.
New brake disks and pads:
I got Dixcel FCR (Carbon) Slotted Front Discs, Plain Rear Discs and Type Z Pads (F&R).
Before:
New Parts
After:
I used these on the Bigpower track evening and at Snetterton last month, braking performance is definitely improved, with no disc warping and a clear decrease in braking distance
The pads, which are marketed as fast road/trackday items seemed to take a warm-up lap to come up to temperature, after which the pedal travel and feel tightened up, and then were excellent with consistent rock solid pedal feel, and they seemed to take everything in their stride. Absolutely no fade or 'hot' smell and they generated less dust than OEM pads after the equivalent number of sessions.
Overall I'd definitely recommend the FCR Carbon discs and Type Z pads for trackday use, but for road only use the OEM parts are fine.
Intake heat shielding
The car came with an AEM V2 induction kit, which although not as popular as the Mugen or J's Racing parts, I've been happy with. One thing I did notice though was that the pipework was getting quite hot to touch after a track session due to underbonnet heat buildup. I decided to stick on some heat reflecting material to see if it helped:
This was done just before the Heritage Trackdays event at Snetterton last month, and the difference was massive, the intake feels merely warm after 20-30 minutes on track. While this difference can't be felt or measured, I'm pretty sure it's better than having a baking hot pipe for the intake air to flow through...
That's about it, probably next upgrade will be a Mugen Twin Loop exhaust, although in all honesty as the OEM exhaust is stainless steel anyway it's not a huge priority (the cost is also a slight issue!).
Cheers,
Alex