Sorry my mistake...
Croft was not covered by TSL Timings and as far as I know there is no info on times except on the Time Attack website.
http://www.timeattack.co.uk/index.php/c ... ints-table
Just hover the mouse over the round you want and the times drop down. Croft was round 2.
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jap.slapper
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pablo wrote:Just checked that link and it's all there. Sometimes the site plays up and won't display the info.
Took me a while to get to grips with it, so just in case.
1 click on the date of the round & not the timetable
2. click pdf file icon on right hand side opposite Time Attack
The only round that is not under time attack was Donnington
http://www.tsl-timing.com/brscc/2013/133731tat.pdf
Croft was not covered by TSL Timings and as far as I know there is no info on times except on the Time Attack website.
http://www.timeattack.co.uk/index.ph...p-points-table
Just hover the mouse over the round you want and the times drop down. Croft was round 2.
Cheers mate, not sure how I missed Donnington first time round?
and if TSL Timings didn't cover Croft....that would explain why that rounds data was missing of their site
thanks again
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A. No question....Ray Mears....you could make a shit load more stew out of that tubby little fecker [/img]
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Please excuse my ignorance (and if the answer is really obvious then I apologise in advance) but I'm trying to get my head around the eventual Club RWD standings at the end of this season
My simple brain tells me that
Rd1 (1st place) = Umar (2nd place) = Ronnie
Rd2 (1st place) = Umar (DNF) = Ronnie
Rd3 (1st place) = Ronnie (2nd place) = Umar
Rd4 (1st place) Ronnie (2nd place) = Umar
*so at this stage of the season:
Umar has 2 x 1st place and 2 x 2nd place
Ronnie has 2 x 1st place and 1 x 2nd place and 1 x DNF
Rd5 (1st place) = Umar (2nd place) = Ronnie
Rd6 (1st place) = Umar (2nd place) = Ronnie
*so by end of season:
Umar has 4 x 1st place and 2 x 2nd place
Ronnie has 2 x 1st place and 3 x 2nd place and 1 x DNF
So how does Umar take 2nd overall?
Are qualifying standings factored in as well as final results??
My simple brain tells me that
Rd1 (1st place) = Umar (2nd place) = Ronnie
Rd2 (1st place) = Umar (DNF) = Ronnie
Rd3 (1st place) = Ronnie (2nd place) = Umar
Rd4 (1st place) Ronnie (2nd place) = Umar
*so at this stage of the season:
Umar has 2 x 1st place and 2 x 2nd place
Ronnie has 2 x 1st place and 1 x 2nd place and 1 x DNF
Rd5 (1st place) = Umar (2nd place) = Ronnie
Rd6 (1st place) = Umar (2nd place) = Ronnie
*so by end of season:
Umar has 4 x 1st place and 2 x 2nd place
Ronnie has 2 x 1st place and 3 x 2nd place and 1 x DNF
So how does Umar take 2nd overall?
Are qualifying standings factored in as well as final results??
[img] Q. If you were stranded on a desert island, who would you rather be stranded with....Ray Mears or Bear Grylls?
A. No question....Ray Mears....you could make a shit load more stew out of that tubby little fecker [/img]
A. No question....Ray Mears....you could make a shit load more stew out of that tubby little fecker [/img]
Points are awarded in qualifying as well as the final.
Qualifying
1st = 50
2nd = 40
3rd = 30
4th = 20
5th = 10
Final
1st = 100
2nd = 90
and so on down to 10th place
Then you also have to drop 1 round from your final score (Your lowest point scoring round)
Ronnie dropped 0 points (DNF)
Umah dropped 90 points
Qualifying
1st = 50
2nd = 40
3rd = 30
4th = 20
5th = 10
Final
1st = 100
2nd = 90
and so on down to 10th place
Then you also have to drop 1 round from your final score (Your lowest point scoring round)
Ronnie dropped 0 points (DNF)
Umah dropped 90 points
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Cheers for clarifying that one mate
Appreciating that 'those are the rules and all that' but I'll be honest I'm not a big fan of dropping the lowest points from the lowest scoring round, the first I heard of that being the way things were done was whilst reading a book referencing the Senna v Prost Championship battles back in the late 80's and early 90's it just seemed a barking mad way of doing things.
I'm sure there was a reason for it over a 16-20 race season etc but for TA when there are only 6 rounds, I would have thought that it would make sense to just keep it simple and tally up all the points finishes from across each of the six rounds.
Otherwise picking up a '0' points scoring DNF doesn't actually make any difference to a competitors chances of taking the title at the end of the season and a driver who has scored consistent 1st/2nds throughout all 6 rounds gets to take a big bite of the proverbial at the end.
in the same vain obtaining points during qualifying and having those points cross over into the total points tally post final also seems a bit odd?
looking at it in layman's terms I would have thought that qualifying is exactly that, it effectively gets you your ticket to the final...no more...no less
and then what you do in the final should be what counts towards the overall points gained
of course that's just my simplistic view and I don't begrudge any driver there dues at the end of the season but it does seem a bit harsh on Umar
Appreciating that 'those are the rules and all that' but I'll be honest I'm not a big fan of dropping the lowest points from the lowest scoring round, the first I heard of that being the way things were done was whilst reading a book referencing the Senna v Prost Championship battles back in the late 80's and early 90's it just seemed a barking mad way of doing things.
I'm sure there was a reason for it over a 16-20 race season etc but for TA when there are only 6 rounds, I would have thought that it would make sense to just keep it simple and tally up all the points finishes from across each of the six rounds.
Otherwise picking up a '0' points scoring DNF doesn't actually make any difference to a competitors chances of taking the title at the end of the season and a driver who has scored consistent 1st/2nds throughout all 6 rounds gets to take a big bite of the proverbial at the end.
in the same vain obtaining points during qualifying and having those points cross over into the total points tally post final also seems a bit odd?
looking at it in layman's terms I would have thought that qualifying is exactly that, it effectively gets you your ticket to the final...no more...no less
and then what you do in the final should be what counts towards the overall points gained
of course that's just my simplistic view and I don't begrudge any driver there dues at the end of the season but it does seem a bit harsh on Umar
[img] Q. If you were stranded on a desert island, who would you rather be stranded with....Ray Mears or Bear Grylls?
A. No question....Ray Mears....you could make a shit load more stew out of that tubby little fecker [/img]
A. No question....Ray Mears....you could make a shit load more stew out of that tubby little fecker [/img]
As the number of entrants declined it meant that everyone got out in the final. The downside of this was that competitors were only going out and doing 2 or 3 slow laps in order to save the car for the final. This was reallynot good from a spectators point of view as they had paid to see these cars running hard not going shopping. So with points up for grap in the qualy session people now tend to run hot in both sessions.
The drop score was as a result of making people push their cars in both sessions, if they had a break down they could then drop that round. However you could only drop a round if you actually attended and went out in at least the warm up session.
Now the can of worms.
As we did not compete this year I did not receive all the amendments to the rules nor do I plan to look into this, but, and I could be mistaken but I am not sure if Ronnie attended the Croft round as he needed an engine rebuild after cadwell. Therefore going by the rules from 2012 he would not have been able to drop the 0 points from that round.
You need to read the rules at least a dozen times and make sure you get all the emails as there does tend to be slight changes from year to year.
The drop score was as a result of making people push their cars in both sessions, if they had a break down they could then drop that round. However you could only drop a round if you actually attended and went out in at least the warm up session.
Now the can of worms.
As we did not compete this year I did not receive all the amendments to the rules nor do I plan to look into this, but, and I could be mistaken but I am not sure if Ronnie attended the Croft round as he needed an engine rebuild after cadwell. Therefore going by the rules from 2012 he would not have been able to drop the 0 points from that round.
You need to read the rules at least a dozen times and make sure you get all the emails as there does tend to be slight changes from year to year.
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That's good news mate, should mix it up a bit
I've been having a nosey at that data on the TSL Timings website and I was surprised at the number of OHW guys that also competed. Some were achieving 2nd and 3rd place finishes in Club RWD category (if I've read the data correctly).
I presume the points (or podiums?) that the OHW guys would have received had they been signed up for a full season, are then dis-regarded enabling the 'full season' guys (who were slower at that particular round....Donnington for example) to jump up the finishing order, is this correct?
If so I'd like to see what some of the OHW guys could achieve from a full season if some of their results are anything to go by
I reckon 2014 is going to be a good year!!
I've been having a nosey at that data on the TSL Timings website and I was surprised at the number of OHW guys that also competed. Some were achieving 2nd and 3rd place finishes in Club RWD category (if I've read the data correctly).
I presume the points (or podiums?) that the OHW guys would have received had they been signed up for a full season, are then dis-regarded enabling the 'full season' guys (who were slower at that particular round....Donnington for example) to jump up the finishing order, is this correct?
If so I'd like to see what some of the OHW guys could achieve from a full season if some of their results are anything to go by
I reckon 2014 is going to be a good year!!
[img] Q. If you were stranded on a desert island, who would you rather be stranded with....Ray Mears or Bear Grylls?
A. No question....Ray Mears....you could make a shit load more stew out of that tubby little fecker [/img]
A. No question....Ray Mears....you could make a shit load more stew out of that tubby little fecker [/img]
Correct, OHW (one hit wonders), don't score points but the fastest OHW does get a trohpey. You will often find that OHW's go on to do a full season either the next year or the year after depending on how they do.
You do tend to find though that the OHW will do there favourite track and a track they have driven alot.
You do tend to find though that the OHW will do there favourite track and a track they have driven alot.
