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Driver training day @ Snett with Malc (Maxx)

Posted: Wed May 01, 2013 9:50 pm
by Monster
As previously mentioned in my build thread I booked Malc (Maxx on here) who is driver-coaching.com for a days training at Snett.

My plan had long been to do something like this once I had confidence that the GTR was reliable enough to commit. I looked at a number of options but Maxx came with a number of recommendations and I also thought his posts on here about what he teaches and how made a lot of sense. So a couple of phone calls to talk it over and the day was booked earlier this year.

Rather than write a long narrative of the day from arriving at the circuit I thought I'd just post up my thoughts about the day.

My over riding feeling is that proper coaching has to be one of the most enjoyable and cost effective way of finding time in a lap, especially if you have a car that you're used to.

I found Malcs teaching method to be very effective. I wont spill all his secrets here but without me feeling that I actually had to put myself into learning mode - for example if you knew you had to do an exam - I feel I learnt, and understand what is actually a huge amount of complex new information, and also un-learnt some previous stuff.

I think the proof of this is that as I think of what I learnt during the day there is no particular thing that stands out as it all blends into a coherent "lap". The key for me being that although Malc had me doing things in the car that were a massive leap of faith, i.e me doing what he told me when everything I wanted to do was the opposite - like add power when I thought i wasn't going to make the corner as it was - I now understand why that works, and how to apply it in other situations, not simply at Snett.

And this is it, I dont' feel like I've learnt lines, or quicker ways around Snett, or getting the best out of my car, although these are all true. I think the best summary of what I take away from the day is an understanding of using the cars available grip, the effects weight transfer on that grip and how to control that weight transfer in order to maximise the grip available - how that translates into a quicker lap. And this can be applied wherever I drive the car. I'm not saying I didn't think I understood weight transfer before, but I am saying that I do now.

There are of course lots of other things I could list.

So all in all, not only the best day I've had on track for a long time, but also a huge, but enjoyable learning curve for me, and by experiencing the "theory" as I went along, an actual understanding that I will be able to build upon with practice.

Plus of course Malc's a top bloke, and very brave - I think he only tensed up once or twice - Coram again Malc?? :D

Although we didn't actually ever go out to set a lap time specifically, the data logs show that my later laps were around 4 seconds (from memory but I'm waiting to catch up with malc again as he's been training all week) quicker - which is huge. It also of course breaks it down by sector, and there's something very satisfying about seeing sector times falling throughout the day, even it's by 100ths let alone tenths.

I'd like to have done a full boost lap now come to think of it as we ran low boost all day so it would have been interesting to see the difference.

It was also fun riding pillion in my own car while Malc thrashed it round :D

Great day, fully recommended.

This is also on my thread, but here's the Vid

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mcQ-JzGG7e4

Posted: Wed May 01, 2013 10:43 pm
by jap.slapper
All in what was the cost of the day including tuition, tyres (albeit 2nd TD on this set with a possible 3rd TD still left in them), fuel and extra costs etc?

Posted: Thu May 02, 2013 8:55 pm
by Monster
Tyres I don't count in the cost of the day as too variable but my biggest expense was fuel, i did best part of

Posted: Thu May 02, 2013 9:54 pm
by Maxx
Christian,

Just thought i'd check here if you'd posted today and you have. I think you summed things up very well in that, there are lots of bits of information and explanation, which we stitch together to form a new "driving program" (we spoke loads about voodhoo stuff, brains and sub-conscious LOL) then when you look back at it, no one thing stands out and even if you KNOW something it is hard to explain it to someone without the other stuff. One of the reasons I generally shy away from things like the "power steer" post I originally made that peaked your interest.

I will comment more over the next day or so but as Christian said, it's been a busy week, after getting back from Snett Tuesday night I was at Oulton at 8:00 yesterday, back at 8ish last night and at Rockingham today.

Thanks for the kind words Christian, I have some to give back as well ... more when I come back.

Malc

Posted: Thu May 02, 2013 9:55 pm
by jap.slapper

Posted: Thu May 02, 2013 10:00 pm
by Monster
Malc - exactly, when i sat down to write up a bit about the day i foudn it difficult without everything around it. Look forward to catching up

Posted: Thu May 02, 2013 10:03 pm
by Monster
Pez

Another way to look at it is

Posted: Fri May 03, 2013 6:23 pm
by Jon
Maxx wrote: (we spoke loads about voodoo stuff, brains and sub-conscious LOL)
^^^
This is what I gained most from a day with Maxx.
Doing stuff before you've even thought about doing it and pushing the car beyond any limits I thought possible. Money, very very well spent in my humble opinion.
Good post Christian, I enjoyed reading it :coolgleamA:
PS
Did Malc grab the wheel at any point?

Posted: Fri May 03, 2013 7:33 pm
by Maxx
I'm still a ways off doing a proper feedback post on the day but I do have some text on this voodhoo, brain, sub-conscious stuff, didn't even cover this particular aspect with Christian as he had enough to contend with but it is what I was "doing".

[quote]
Also, if you have learnt anything from me and you have read the above (congrats on your patience and dedication if you have) you will know we are working with WEIGHT more than LINE. The reason we take the line we do is to manipulate the weight (hence grip) to our advantage. This not only means that you must drive the racing line almost inch perfect but you must enter each corner at the optimum speed, with the optimum balance side-to-side, front-to- back. You must then keep that balance all the way through the corner with little or no instability and your movement between the pedals and in the pressure you place on them must be incredibly precise and timed to the absolute fraction of a second. In order to do this you must be perfectly in tune with your car, you must be able to FEEL everything .. I

Posted: Fri May 03, 2013 8:47 pm
by Monster
Jon wrote:^^^

PS
Did Malc grab the wheel at any point?

I don't think he did actually, unless I was too voodoo'd up to notice :eek: